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Are the Indian Muslims, the converted Hindu?
Vivek Pandey , faizabad: Jan 23 2009
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Are the Indian Muslims, the converted Hindu?

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The question that Indian Muslims should ask themselves now is simple: Who are we? Among the 120 millions of Muslims in India, only a tiny percentage descends from the Turks, Afghans, or Iranians who invaded India. The majority of them are converted Muslims. And converted how? By terror, coercion, force, bloodshed.

The ancestors of today’s Indian Muslims are probably those who suffered the most from the Arab and Muslim invasions. Those Hindus and Sikhs who chose not to convert, took refuge in their faith, fought together and kept their pride and honor. The first two generations of those who converted must have endured hell for they certainly did not convert out of conviction, but because they had no choice: their daughters and wives were raped, sons taken into slavery, parents killed.

It is true that many Indian Muslims were Hindu `untouchables’. Marxists would like us to believe that they converted because they thought that they would access the more egalitarian society of Islam. What rubbish! Does one think in that way in times of war, terror and tears? Do today’s Hindu lower castes convert to Islam when there is no violent coercion? More likely, the `untouchables’ were the most vulnerable, the least apt to defend themselves; they had neither the faith of the brahmins, nor the riches of the vaishyas, nor the military skill of the kshatriyas.

Do Indian Muslims understand that they were part of the richest, most advanced, most tolerant and generous civilization of ancient times? That their culture was so advanced that it had spread all over the world? Do they realise that more and more archaeological and historical discoveries are pointing out that the genocide of Hindus by Muslim invaders is without parallel. The conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by the annihilation of the entire Hindu population there; indeed, the region is still called Hindu Kush _ `Hindu slaughter’.

The Bahmani sultans in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 Hindus a year. In 1399, Taimur killed 100,000 Hindus in a single day. Professor K.S. Lal has estimated that the Hindu population decreased by 8O million between the year 1000 and 1525, probably the biggest holocaust in history. Surely, many of present-day Indian Muslims’ ancestors must have been among those slaughterers. Islam cannot be wished away. As Sri Aurobindo said, “Mohammed’s mission was necessary, else we might have ended by thinking, in the exaggeration of our efforts at self-purification, that earth was meant only for the monk and the city created as a vestibule for the desert”.

Thus Indian Muslims have to keep their faith and any attempt by Hindus to convert them back is not only futile but counterproductive. But the question to be asked to them is: What kind of Islam do you want to practice? An Islam which looks westwards, towards a foreign city, the Mecca, swears by a scripture, which is not only not relevant to India but which was meant for people living 1,500 years ago, in a language which is not Indian? Or do they want to practice an Islam which is `Indianised’, which accepts the reality of other gods, as Hinduism and Buddhism accept that there have been other avatars than Ram or Buddha?

Are the Indian Muslims, the converted Hindu?
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Do Indian Muslims want to worship Babar, a man who destroyed everything which was good, beautiful and holy and lived by the power of violence, or do they want to imbibe the qualities of Ram, who believed in the equality of all, who gave up all riches and honors of the world because he thought his brother deserved the throne more than him? Whatever the West says, which is obsessed with China, India, a vibrant, English-speaking, pro-Western democracy, is going to become the superpower of the 21st century. Do Indian Muslims want to participate in that great adventure? Do they want to feel that they are part of India, that they are Indians?

Nowadays it is politically not correct to say anything against Islam. You are immediately labeled anti-Muslim and dismissed as a `rightist’. No matter if you are only reporting the fact that there is a real problem with Islam in South Asia; that India is surrounded by fundamentalist states _ Afghanistan and Pakistan _ while more moderates like Bangladesh tend to close an eye to anti-Indian activities; that Indian Muslims sometimes tend to put their religion before their country. Thus the question has to be asked again: Do Indian Muslims want to be like Babar or like Ram? Their choice will shape their future for generations to come.

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A report by a government official of the Andhra Pradesh has put together the socio-economic history of Indian Muslims for last several centuries, and has concluded that 85% Muslims in India were formerly lower-caste Hindus upset about Hinduism’s rigid and inflexible structure. The writer of the report, P S Krishnan, a Human Resources adviser for Andhra Pradesh, has contended that religious conversions, for many such Indians, were opportunities to escape India’s class system.

A major problem with my assertion is that it ignores a very, very large number of conversions that were commonplace when Muslim invaders and rulers won new territories and through mandates, tax structures and use of force, converted poor Hindu families to Islam. There are innumerable known cases of conversions of lower and upper caste-Hindus to Islam, cases that have nothing to do with the class system but everything to do with the circumstances.

Let us take 2 very good examples from the Maratha history, significant by virtue of the Marathas having a powerful Hindu king (Shivaji) who had a successful 40-year Hindu stint right in the middle of the Mughal empire. The chief of Shivaji’s army, Netaji Palkar, briefly converted to Islam because he thought he was being passed over for promotion by his King, and because he wasn’t getting the due rewards of his bravery by his own king. Muslim rulers successfully bribed, cajoled, forced and blackmailed many Hindus into converting, a fact that had nothing to do with the prevailing class system, but more to do with circumstances, financial needs, poverty, etc. The second example is King Shivaji’s own son Sambhaji, who was threatened by his Muslim captors into accepting Islam. Sambhaji refused and ended up blind with his eyes gouged out, eventually leading to his death in captivity.

If we feel that the class system is really the reason for this religious exodus, why does he insist on perpetuating the class system by labeling Indians as belonging to this or that caste, by advocating on caste-census, and by trying to revise reservation strategies to add more reservations and quotas to select Indians?

Sure, some Hindus left Hinduism because they were sick of it. Some of those Hindus became Muslims, others became Christians. So what? Shouldn’t we letting the bygones be bygones and chart a new course?

By labeling the conversions as a caste-issue, the government report is sending a signal to Muslims, letting them know that soon, there will be more reservations based on these ‘newfound’ historical facts. So, sooner or later, this report will form the basis for adding more groups to the scheduled caste categories, helping assign additional quotas for those groups, and creating additional vote banks (the real purpose behind reservations and quotas) for political parties. Today it is Indian Muslims, tomorrow it will be Indian Christians. Soon, even the so-called higher-caste Hindus will be proved to be once belonging to lower-castes, and then everyone will have guaranteed reservations in the universities, industries and government.

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Vijay
Kota, India
Very good article Vivek.Now we are living in a democracy and everybody is free to choose his religion [Human right].Many Muslims are in search of their roots and its a fact that by cutting yr roots,you ultimately lose the fragrance also,so let them search there soul.
And yes the door should be kept open for either direction.
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Vijay
Kota, India
Vivek pl go through this article also
”Hindus, the ancestors of South Asia’s Muslims”
the link is
http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com/entry/hindus-the-ancestors-of-south-asias-muslims/
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Aneez
Mumbai, India
Nice pictures :-)

I liked the second one, the backdrop is just excellent! Can you post a full-size version of that?? Or give me the link to that image, I’d like to add it to my image library.
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Sanwali
Shimla, India
You might not have noticed but the link is provided right below the image itself Aneez :)
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Aneez
Mumbai, India
Hey, Thanks Sanwali :-)

Actually, I’m too terrified to read through the content of such posts, maybe that’s why I missed the link.

Anyway, thanks a lot :-)
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Sonu Purohit
Bangalore, India
That is a nice question - Do Indian Muslims understand that they were part of the richest, most advanced, most tolerant and generous civilization of ancient times?

The answer to it can be very easily surmised - they do not! Do you mean that? No issues with that deduction. But, must we repeat all these well known ’things’ right now with barely some hours left before we celebrate our republic day? Does it serve any purpose other than alienating some madders from the national mainstream?

If you must carry on with your agenda, why not wait for a more opportune moment?
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I certainly respect the need and the writers urge to embark on a journey to follow the roots of the 1.2 million muslims in India and give a very dramatic and violent representations of the conversions of the time, but am afraid to say that I have to interrupt his dream and his stream of thought and tell him about Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti, the sufi who was responsible for the more than 90% of the converts in India.

I am from a Hindu Lohana family who were converted to Muslims in the early 17th century by this man OR his disciples (that is yet unknown).

But, the part written comparing the religions and the references to historical references is completely untrue and communal in nature.

Although written with the best intentions, it can have wrong interpretations and certainly gain some negative publicity for Insta. Ankit I am sure you will be more careful choosing your articles in the future.

After an excellent piece by nandini on secular living and principles of our society, I certainly did not expect to read an article with a heavy communal undertone.

I like the way Vivek ends the article but I certainly have problems with the first half of the essay.

PS: Am an astheist - so please don’t judge my comment on my name.
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Is this question relevant today when we have a plural society in India? Searching ancestors is a lengthy and cumbersome process. More than 5000 years ago our ancestors (in the Indian sub-continent) came from Africa? Should we call ourselves Africans?
Then the issue of Aryan invasion is there. Debate on such a dead issue would lead us to nowhere. Pl. consider it.

Moreover, during the entire history of conversion in the Indian sub-continent during the last millennium, only two castes or groups in the Hindu society are known to resist successfully the wave of conversion to Islam. There are Yadav (Ahir) and Bania (Vaish). Brahmins and Rajputs, in the vanguard of the Hindu hierarchical caste system, were the most eager to embrace Islam for official doles and patronage.
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Sikander Hayat
Multan, Pakistan
It is not a surprise to hear that India (RAW) is behind the current unrest in Pakistan but hearing it now on an international stage from a respected journalist is another story. Christine Fair in this month’s edition of Foreign Affairs says very clearly that India is hell bent on destabilising Pakistan by providing massive amount of funds, weapons and satellite imagery to Taliban in FATA, Balochistan and other parts of the country and a great effort is being put in by the Indian consulates in Afghanistan to this end.

http://real-politique.blogspot.com

By Sikander Hayat
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Wonda L
Earth, Canada
During the Muslim conquests, Islam gained many converts on the Indian sub-continent primarily from Hinduism or Buddhism; the two dominant local religions. Inter-marriage and immigration from other Islamic lands have helped in instilling this idea in the people of greater India. Many of the new Muslim rulers looked down upon the idea Hinduism as having Iconodulistic religious practices and were to various degrees iconoclastic. Prominent examples of these are Mahmud of Ghazni and the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb on either end of the timeline for Islamic rulers. In addition, Muslims in India also developed a caste system that divided the Arab-descended ”Ashraf” Muslims and the ”Ajlaf” converts, with the ”Arzal” untouchables at the lowest rung[1][2][3][4][5] The term ”Arzal” stands for ”degraded” and the Arzal castes are further subdivided into Bhanar, Halalkhor, Hijra, Kasbi, Lalbegi, Maugta, Mehtar etc.[4][5][6]

In contrast there were also many Muslim kings who wished to live in harmony with the Hindus for interests of the Islamic empire. Akbar and Ibrahim Adil Shah II of Bijapur Adil Shah dynasty are notable examples. Akbar’s court was home to intellectuals and saints both Hindu and Muslim, among them the great musician Tansen who converted to Islam, and he (Akbar) even went so far as to try and create a new religion (the din ilahi) to create a rapprochement of both creeds for creating a stable empire. Contrary to popular belief Akbar, continued the policy of Babur and Humayun in the destruction of Hindu temples. It is recorded by Bayazid Biyat, personal attendant of Humayun, that Akbar gave two villages for the upkeep of a mosque and a Madrasa which was setup by destroying a Hindu temple, this was done under the supervision of ’Todar Mal’ who was highly regarded Hindu minister (vizir) of Akbar.[7] Shaikh Ahmad Sirhindi, does not credit Akbar for saving the temple instead gives credit to the ”infidels” for building their own temple by demolishing the mosque. [8] Akbar’s army was responsible for demolition of rich Hindu temples which had gold idols in the Doab region between Ganga and Yamuna.[7]

Frustration in the sub-continent grew as a result of this leading to the gradual decline of the Muslim mughal empire replaced by the Sikhs, Marathas, the Vijayanagara kingdom and later the British.

In the last 60 years after Indian independence, the Muslims have had to live without the preferential treatment that was offered to them during the days of the sultanates and even during the British Raj’s positive discrimination against the Muslims as a part of the divide and rule policy. The communal tensions between the Hindus and the Muslims have erupted many a times during this period. Notable incidents of this phenomenon include the demolition of the Babri Masjid and the Gujrat Riots of 2002.

Kabir was a Sufi saint who embraced the Hindu God Rama as his chosen bhakti ideal. He wrote poetry and preached to the people, advocating a blend of philosophy and spiritual practices. Sufism as a whole is primarily concerned with direct personal experience, and as such may be compared to various esoteric forms of mysticism such as Bhakti form of Hinduism, Hesychasm, Zen Buddhism, Kabbalah, Gnosticism and Christian mysticism.

The synergy between certain Sufis and Bhaktas in many regions of India led to Muslim and Hindu laity worshiping together at a mazar (Sufi shrine). However, Muslim and Sikh conflict erupted in India fueled by a history of regional politics, nationalism, continued conflict and the partition movements during independence from the British Raj in 1947.
And the world of humans continues to churn with the never ending words of the conscious
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